“It just takes a while. And I know that’s not great advice, but it does. It’s just the kinda thing where, on the flip side, you can work really, really hard and nothing is going to happen overnight and that’s kind of almost comforting. Where you’re like, ‘Oh, I can keep messing up and keep failing and it’s okay because everybody fails for a really long time.’ Nobody has expectations for you.”

- Jo Firestone


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